I had a few thoughts on today’s strip, since it got to me a bit. Some people share the sentiment and some don’t. Either way, if you’d like to read my thoughts, CLICK HERE.
As hard as this scene must have been for you, this is life. Well not really… This is zombies, and we all know they aren’t real (Yet) Either way this is life, one minute you’re out walking your dog and the next moment your dog is dead because he got lose and was hit by a car. It’s tragic and it tears your soul apart sometimes but we move on. We build up scar tissue and grow up a little bit every time this happens. For some it happens more than others but it’s still life. I like a story that can bring it home for me and make me appreciate that this is life and for now it’s all going smoothly.
And don’t worry, you’re no George RR Martin and this isn’t a red wedding. (Meaning more than half of your original characters are still alive so good job!) We can handle this! Keep up the good work =]
Wow, seriously great job guys!
Wow. That was really gut wrenching. My jaw dropped from today’s issue. The description was really heartbreaking too. Great writing man, I’m eating it up.
Poor choice of words… sorry…
The end was clear to me. Yes it’s dark but zombies are a dark subject matter. Your dealing with the idea that for some inexplicable reason another human being will rise up from the dead and try to eat you. Not give you a love bite like Brad Pitt would have you believe.
Really enjoying the comic so far, I do see what you mean by the last panel. I remember from when I used to write stories for college. A professor and some of my buddies back then used to say that when you get that feeling as a writer is when you know you wrote a good story and characters. Making your characters suffer is hard to do, especially when you know that their cursing you for this, but that’s part of making them real.
Josh, it’s a story about zombies. What were any of us expecting? Frankly, it’s surprising and admirable that we haven’t had ten times more of this by now. And this comic is over a year and a half old. This certainly isn’t “too soon”.
If you’re afraid of upsetting people, or writing death, or leaving a bad taste in people’s mouths…then why write at all? Keep going, man. We’re not six. We can handle it.
Though I do understand how upsetting it is just to lose a character you’ve written. Even if you know early on or from the start that you’re going to be killing them, you can’t help but give them all this personality and backstory, and before you know it you love them and you want to keep them, but you can’t. It’s awful.
Heya! Loving the comic, a friend of mine and I follow it closely. Though, not sure what saying that adds to what I wish to say.
It may be because I’m a fan of zombies, dark tales of horror and death…but I don’t think you can get “too far” easily, here. Even from what little experience I have with writing (and reading), I know it can be hard for everyone involved. But that’s what makes it great! Because there will be growth. Because there will be pay-off later. Or, at least you hope there will be. I mean, this isn’t “Now and Then, Here and There”. I watched that. That was…an experience…
Anyway. But no, you’re right, that is beautifully…brutal .__. . Cannot /wait/ to see what happens next!
It’s an incredibly jarring scene. And given your artstyle and past themes, it’s not entirely expected. Which only makes it even MORE effective.
If that was your purpose? Bravo. Mission damn well accomplished!
I for one side with anything that aids in good storytelling. If it makes the story itself a better read, dead babies are awesome.
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(Mentally) called it. And in response to your (author/artist) comment, I’d say going too far would be to actually show the kids getting mutilated. That would conjure a more than disturbed effect on the audience, even though simply hinting at the idea of what could have happened to them (as portrayed through the “violent” display in the last panel with the dark lighting and blood splattered everywhere) can already distil horror in the audience in the form of a trope known as “fridge horror”.
As for whether the scene was a bit rushed, perhaps it did escalate a bit too quickly. The only other alternative would be to flesh it out a bit more, showing how Geoffry went to TY and transitioned from worried and depressed before and during the interview to happy and releaved after. Maybe have him attend his first day at the office before coming home to the last panel, possibly showing a few cutaways to the wife at home feeling ill and leading up to her inevitable actions. I don’t know how it was written or how it was intended to happen but it could have been dragged out a bit longer through these ideas to build up more character between the two. But alas, life is a cruel mistress that isn’t fair to anymore and I’m sure there’ve been a few distractions parallel to the development of this comic.
As a reader from beginning to now, personally speaking, I feel like there’s nothing wrong with this scene/page. I, myself, am not offended in the least at this, though I can understand why some would be. It’s something we see every day in movies and stories where children are “immortal” in the face of danger and always seem to find a way out when all seems lost. Honestly, dying children is a sad fact of reality, and is strongly overlooked by most people who’re fascinated by the zombie apocalypse. Only a few braved to cross that boundary such as “The Walking Dead” where ANYONE, even children, could be zombified or worse, and I for one applaud them because they were able to captivate the emotional backlash of the moment rather than have dead/zombie children just to have them be there. That’s just me and my way of looking at various forms of art.
Overall, yes, this reveal was a bit rushed and may have missed the mark you were trying to hit in character development, but the shock value, though unintentional, isn’t an unwelcomed change of pace. I’ll be interested to see where you go from here.
From one artist to another,
Too far? Ha! You can kill all of them if this drives storry in good direction. You need as much gore and blood as storry calls fo it (see Sin City). We needed one strong punch and we had it.
Multi-panel grotesque pornography of mother chewing on her offspring would be too much.
All creators have second (and sometimes fiftieth) thoughts or just plain ol doubts after they have released a creation. As someone who has read good, bad, and intentionally disgusting horror work, I’ll give my unasked for opinion. The gore is minimal, the outcome part of a well paced and well intentioned STORY, and it has the impact I think you WANTED it to have.
Some 14 year old would have put dripping entrails and a crazed grin in the middle of all this for sheer shock’s sake. This.. this is a subtle tragedy. The body language starts out as hope and elation. The last panel you cannot tell if the wife is wracked with guilt or feral hunger, and I am (forgive me) DYING to find out what happens next. Having a cast worth caring about is the signs of a good writer. Caring about misusing those characters is a sign of a fantastic storyteller.
Thank you for the art.
… I won’t lie, I was scrolling down til I saw what happened, and then I was so mortified that I immediately scrolled back up.
I’m a little horrified by the implications… -sigh- this is why normally I can’t watch zombie/horror movies.
But otherwise, great work, you got your intent across and it translated well into your artwork!
this gave me chills. excellent.
this gave me chills. excellent job.
You can’t make a zombie omelette without eating a few kids, right? Alright, I’ll be the first to say it, “Nom Nom Nom!!”
This is awesome. Character depth comes at a cost I guess.
Worth it imo.
I completely saw it coming. The second they said they didn’t have the money for zombie welfare, and mentioned her losing sensation in her hands, I knew it would come to something like this.
I have to agree with Raven’s first sentence. Too far would be showing the morbidity of the scene, rather than simply hitting at it. And I’m not trying to make fun of your emotional, thought provoking question, both in yourself and in me / us as readers, but:
“Bad taste in your mouth.”
Tell the story the way you have to tell it.
Well, we do have Luna as a side character, and she has killed something like three people for kicks.
Am I too late to join in on the ZILF verdict? I still stand by it.
Character developement is pretty important, so yeah do whatever you must.
Hey, I just ran into your comic Sunday afternoon and read through the entire thing and then I saw your thoughts about the panel and well…
What are you? A massive pussy? Too far? Too gruesome? Are you serious? This is so minor compared to what I’ve seen in the media industry it makes me wonder if you’ve been living under a rock.
I like the comic, but your thoughts and feelings about this page, “going too far”, man you come off as terribly wishy washy.
Just because you’ve seen aweful things in the media, and I don’t know, mutilate small animals when you go home while popping pills doesn’t mean that the scene would have been too far with the theme of the -comic you are reading-. It’s like watching Star Trek and all of the sudden the crew has a massive orgy because well, I’ve seen it in other forms in the modern era. I think the call was a good one to strengthen the emotional tie to the story but still be true to the same positives of this comic which is greatness driven by good writing, not excessive scenes that draw shock value.
Your vote is veto’d.
Shocker – but also so intensely sad…
Too far? I do not think so – i mean zombies are supposedly mindless killers.
I await the next one almost breathlessly.
Yeah, I might be done with this.
…this is beautifully horrific…love it
Welp, that took a turn for the morbid (moreso) in my marathon read.
I’m betting 3 bucks TY did that
(I know, not very much but I’m from Russia, so that’s what i’m living for a day)
Well, honestly was not expecting that.
FUCKEN CALLED IT
…Oh, shit. Geoff. (*Sniff* It’s Geoffre- *Whimper*) Are you… Okay?
Need a tissue? Ok then. Have fun with that. Though it can’t be much fun, of corpse- I mean, course. Sorry.
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